I Feel Sorry For You,
You Are Truly
Lying To Yourself
C. A. Thompson
Is all the world truly a cipher, spinning aimless in a universe and galaxy created by its own devises, developed without purpose thought or direction?
Are you truly the evolutionary culmination of faulty monkey genes? Merely an advanced form of apian existence?
Have you ever seen the stars, heard the ocean, felt the sun or had a kindness bestowed upon you? If you can truly answer no to all these questions...I feel sorry for you because you are truly lying to yourself. Your chances are less than average.
From: "Positive Atheism" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: WebMaster:_Positive_Atheism_Index
Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:07 AM
I see that you wrote without checking out our website to see what we
think and say before you lay your traps before us. Letters such as this
are boring because we must reinvent the wheel every time we get one of
these. We prefer that people first find out what we're about rather than
simply seeing the word atheism and assuming that they've got us
pegged -- and we say as much in the notice adjacent to the link you clicked.
Is all the world truly a cipher,
No. It's a planet.
spinning aimless in a universe and galaxy created by its own devises,
No. It formed according to the properties of matter and energy. It did
not form itself, but is the result of its environment.
developed without purpose thought or direction?
Without conscious thought? Yes. Conscious thought, as far as we can tell, requires a nervous system. The Earth and her greater environment, as far as we can tell, contain no nervous systems, so from what we can ascertain, there was no conscious thought involved in the formation of the Earth.
Without conscious purpose? Yes. Only laws of gravity and matter and energy are at work in the formation and the movement of the Earth, as far as we can tell. We have no reason to think that "somebody" picked up a giant lump of clay and "formed" a mud-ball, of sorts, and hurled it into space with just the right amount of "English" to keep is spinning the way it does. Newton's explanation requires much less faith than that.
Without direction? This question is unclear.
If you mean without conscious, deliberate "direction" as in being deliberately guided by a conscious entity, no. Nothing about Earth or the laws of physics require us to think any more than that the laws of gravity and momentum are at work in the formation and movement of the Earth.
If you mean direction as in tendency, then yes: all things have characteristics
and can be expected to act according to their characteristics within their
environment. The earth is composed of various amounts of matter and contains
a certain amount of heat, and receives and gives off certain amounts of
heat from the sun (which is acting according to its characteristics), and
contains a certain mass and a certain momentum. Thus, we can expect the
Earth to do what it is doing, and to continue to do what it's doing. In
this sense of the word direction, yes, the Earth has direction.
Are you truly the evolutionary culmination of faulty monkey genes?
That plus what my cultural background has given me; plus what my experiential background has given me; plus what my internal thoughts have given me; plus what those who have loved me have given to me; minus what accident, illness, and missed opportunity have taken away from me; minus what I have given of myself to my fellow humans and other species. And a whole lot of other things, too.
But I wouldn't call it faulty, because with this change, we have been able to survive and prosper as a species, plus we have been able to ponder questions much more profound, even, than the ones with which you think you have baffled me.
Nevertheless, the basic foundation of my existence is the fact that every member of my chain of ancestors has lived long enough to procreate, and that over the billions of years, some have developed random mutations which were selected according to whether they provided an advantage within the gene pool.
My basic foundation for existence is that I am an organism. Being an
organism is the only way we have ever detected that enables a conscious
entity to exist. If I could do it any other way, I might give it a try,
but since this is the only way we've yet detected for existing, I will
appreciate what I've got and give back to my culture and my environment
the gift of myself during my brief stay within the realm of existence.
Merely an advanced form of apian existence?
Bees do not have the same nervous systems that humans have, far from it; thus, bees experience an entirely different existence that humans do. Therefore, we cannot be "merely an advanced form of an apian [bee-like] existence," but something quite different from it in every way except those basics common to all fauna. How this would relate to "faulty monkey genes" escapes me, though.
We all have DNA which has as its "goal" self-preservation
through self-replication. Certain strands of DNA are common in all life
forms, suggesting that the current set of life forms now exiting on Earth
had a single common ancestor. This does not mean that life evolved only
once, just that the current set of life forms probably sprang ultimately
from one source. Apart from that, humans and bees have very little in common.
Have you ever seen the stars, heard the ocean, felt the sun or had a kindness bestowed upon you?
Yes, but I don't get the point of your question.
If you can truly answer no to all these questions...I feel sorry for you because you are truly lying to yourself.
This is a bold claim. Please back it up.
Your chances are less than average.
Is this a threat?
My chances are phenomenally low as it is. Why do you lessen my chances through your spite-laden posturing? Do you not appreciate that life is a gift any way you look at it? with or without a conscious entity doing the giving in this sense? Why would anyone knowing that life is a gift treat their fellow humans the way you have treated me?
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