True Follower Of
The Real McCoy
Jeff
From: "jeff"
To: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 7:17 PM
I love this web site, it plainly shows the ignorance, of you "people"..this is fun though, ill just give you enough rope, and you'll hang yourself.....just like the gentiles praying in public in loud voices, and using big words, you think that all of this deep crap that you guys write will obviously prove that the bible is wrong..you try and use science to disprove the Bible, when the very book that your trying to disprove clearly says, do not try and attach human thought patterns to how Gods mind works...see, the Bible was already written with your attacks in mind..pretty smart eh?....what book did Darwin write 2000+ years ago, that the Bible has to defend itself against?....huuuh?...But, here's the tricky part for you now, you cant respond back to this..see I very strongly believe in God..and to believe in God, means that I have to live "christlike"..so to argue with me, your in essence arguing with God, and since you do not believe in his existence, that would not be logical now would it?....No all you can do, is write me some smug, condescending, response, that will attack my grammar, or my obviously lack of education..and that's just how I want you to think.....and before you try and get me on biblical contradictions, you better read this more than once...
From: "Positive Atheism Magazine" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To: "jeff"
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 8:26 PM
Aren't you glad Santa brought you this new computer to play with?
I love this web site, it plainly shows the ignorance, of you "people"..this is fun though, ill just give you enough rope
We will post this letter as yet another example of why we actively oppose the Christian religion: this clever dogma so often inspires its adherents to become flat-out bigots of the unashamed variety.
The fact that you would describe us by enclosing the word people in quotation marks, indicating that you really mean something other than the natural and common meaning of the word, speaks volumes about where you're coming from. You, being a Christian, consider yourself to be so vastly superior to us, simply because we are not Christians, that we are not real people at all in your mind. This is the message you conveyed when you wrote this. (Readers: Check any handbook on English grammar and see what enclosing a word in quotation marks means!)
The rest of your letter conveys similar boastful sentiments.
see I very strongly believe in God..and to believe in God, means that I have to live "christlike"
By acting like a bigot you are being very Christ-like: The mythical Christ of the Bible taught Christian exclusivism, that Christians are superior in every way to non-Christians. You have learned that lesson well, having made much progress in this respect, as is shown in your letter to us. Now, go forth and discriminate, confiscate, and persecute -- just like your Master has instructed (John 15:6).
You most certainly lack the humility espoused by the followers of that false Christ of modern Liberal Christianity: your hatefulness shows that you've been sitting at the feet of The Real McCoy.
Now: Even if you could show your variation of the Christian religion to be true, I'd have a tough time being in league with people who demean their fellow-humans they way you have dishonored us in your letter -- and you don't even know us!
I am very sorry that you have let the Christian religion do this to you. Being human has so much to offer. But part of being human, for me, is allowing people to make their own mistakes. So, I will not tell you what to do. The best I can do for you is to publicize the fact that you have acted this way toward us, in hopes that perhaps one person will see what you've done, will think about it, and will (hopefully) stop acting similarly.
No all you can do, is write me some smug, condescending, response, that will attack my grammar, or my obviously lack of education..and that's just how I want you to think
And why do almost all of the viciously bigoted letters we receive also display the most atrocious writing skills? Rows of dots; one long sentence; omitted apostrophes; spurious apostrophes; maniacal tone; more rows of dots; missing commas; extra commas; monstrous abuses of logic; capitalization errors; syntax errors; spelling errors; bullying; still more rows of dots; etc. Does group-inspired hatefulness tend to be inversely proportional to education? If all one had to go on was the Positive Atheism Inbox, it would be easy to see how someone could come to this conclusion.
I wish I didn't have to spend so much of my life fighting the institutionalized bigotry that is everywhere inflicted upon us in the name of Christ. Unfortunately, though, the Christian superiority complex is a fact of life in the United States, disrupting the lives of countless thousands of humans each day. Thus, this is how I have spent a large part of my adult life: exposing and opposing people who act like you have in your letter to us -- people who act this way toward me simply because I'd never want to be like them.
Have a nice life: as far as we can tell, it's the only one we get.
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
Five years of service to
people with no reason to believe
From: "jeff"
To: "Positive Atheism Magazine" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 8:48 PM
I love it, I have not even finished this yet, and you responded exactly how I thought you would..first off....you I have had this p.c for a couple years now...hold on..let me finish this...does it strain you to study the content and structure of a letter?....does it bother you, that you cant go head to head with the scriptures?.....or does writing some grandiose composition make you feel like your point has been driven home?
From: "jeff"
To: "Positive Atheism Magazine" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject:
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 8:58 PM
And why do almost all of the viciously bigoted letters we receive also display the most atrocious writing skills? Rows of dots; one long sentence; omitted apostrophes; spurious apostrophes; maniacal tone; more rows of dots; missing commas; extra commas; monstrous abuses of logic; capitalization errors; syntax errors; spelling errors; still more rows of dots; grunts; etc. Does group-inspired hatefulness tend to be inversely proportional to education? If all I had to go on was the Positive Atheism Inbox, it would be easy to see how someone could come to this conclusion.
This paragraph won me a bet, I said this would be your main argument, that and how hateful I was, the truth is, what I believe in has nothing to do with how I spell or write, and the fact that I can bait you into this so easy, shows just how ignorant you are...next time, you better realize that maybe that uniformed Christian is not so dumb. And by the way read John 15:6 before you throw scriptures at me..I know very well what it says, and what it means..do you?
From: "Positive Atheism Magazine" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To: "jeff" <cjeff@kalama.com>
Cc: <support@scattercreek.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 9:24 PM
This paragraph won me a bet, I said this would be your main argument, that and how hateful
What can I say? By their fruits you shall know them.
and the fact that I can bait you into this so easy,
I would never want to have anything to do with a religion which inspires people to act the way you are acting toward me.
Thus, I must insist that you stop writing to our domain.
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
For five years, entertaining
people with no reason to believe
From: "jeff" <cjeff@kalama.com>
To: "Positive Atheism Magazine" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Re:
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 10:07 PM
I will respect your request, and just write you this, letting you know that I will not write you, and I also respect it, that you backed down so fast..I guess Gods power truly is awesome eh?.......you have a great day now...I will honor your request......God bless you!!!!!!
From: "Positive Atheism Magazine" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To: <support@scattercreek.com>; <abuse@scattercreek.com>; <support@kalama.com>; <abuse@kalama.com>; <sales@kalama.com>; <sales@scattercreek.com>; <postmaster@scattercreek.com>; <postmaster@kalama.com>
Subject: E-Mail Harassment From Kalama.com: Request For Filter
Date: Monday, December 25, 2000 10:38 PM
Abuse team:
We have asked "jeff" (cjeff@kalama.com) to stop writing to our domain because of the race-baiting tone of his several letters to us. We CCed a copy of this request to support@scattercreek.com and have attached a copy of that request to this letter.
Since "jeff" (cjeff@kalama.com) refuses our request (see newer attachment and below), we hereby request that a filter be placed on his account so that no more e-mail harassment from his account may reach the positiveatheism.org domain.
Atheists are the most widely and viciously despised minority in the United States, and we take all messages of this nature very seriously. People such as "jeff" continually remind us that they'd burn us at the stake if only they were still allowed to do so.
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
Five years of service to
people with no reason to believe
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