Yet Another Reason
To Remain An Atheist
Cory
From: cofo
To: Positive Atheism
Sent: August 12, 2001 8:15 AM
Subject: PA-via_Positive_Atheism_Index
Get Real,
Nice qoute, I hope you read the whole Treaty of Tripoli. The "government" of this United was not founded on Christian religion, duh. Christianity has no government set up program. What you trying to say with this miss qoute? I'll pray for you and your souls for the time is short and you need love. Agape love. You have read the Truth and yet you don't acknowledge it. Either you make a choice or not, you have still made a choice. I pray you will chose "life", accept there is a God and Hie Son died for our sins. He paid a debt He did not owe, we have a debt we cant pay. The bible is real and so is God. WAKE UP. This is a call to you to act. God loves you and so do I. like a Father to his children I pray you will open your eyes and ears so your heart and mind can understand, Cory
From: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To: "cofo"
Subject: Re: PA-via_Positive_Atheism_Index
Date: August 12, 2001 8:45 AM
I notice from the e-mail link you clicked that you never made it past the top of the front page before you lost your cool. What is it that got to you, the word atheism?
What you trying to say with this miss qoute?
You mean "misquote," don't you? If this is the case, then you'll need to show that we're misquoting it. It doesn't work to simple accuse us of misquoting it and leave it at that.
If you can show that we've misquoted the Treaty of Tripoli, we'll gladly retract it and replace it with both the correct quote and an apology. But since you cannot show that we've misquoted the Treaty if Tripoli, you owe us an apology for lying both to us and about us.
I'd also like to know why so many Christians write to us and lie to us in their attempts to convince us that Christianity is a religion of truthfulness? What is it about the Christian religion that makes it okay to lie just so long as the Christian religion looks good as a result of those lies?
Cliff Walker
Positive Atheism Magazine
Six years of service to
people with no reason to believe
From: "cofo"
To: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Sent: August 13, 2001 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: PA-via_Positive_Atheism_Index
Cliff Walker,
I am happy tom hear from you. About the miss quote. Gramaticaly it is correct but why use this quote here? There is considerable debate about whether the Arabic version of the treaty even had the famous words included which you quote, (they are not present, as was discovered in about 1930, in the surviving Arabic version). Is this thing a misprint in English? Where is the English signed Treaty of Tripoli residing today? Also I did not lie to you. What is your theory on man's existance on this Earth, his origins for example. Where do we come from? Curious for an explanation and thank you for your reply, Cory
From: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To: "cofo"
Subject: Re: PA-via_Positive_Atheism_Index
Date: August 13, 2001 4:47 AM
About the miss quote. Gramaticaly it is correct but why use this quote here?
and
Also I did not lie to you.
I never cease to be fascinated by the elaborate squirming observed any time we catch one of you folks lying to our Forum audience. First you come on strong and mean, putting your weight first on one foot and then the other and saying that we misquoted the Treaty of Tripoli; now you're rolling your eyes up to the sky with your hands clasped coyly behind your back, whistling a different tune.
What's next, that because you spelled misquote differently from the way the rest of us spell it, this means that you give it a completely different meaning than the rest of us give it?
There is considerable debate about whether the Arabic version of the treaty even had the famous words included which you quote, (they are not present, as was discovered in about 1930, in the surviving Arabic version).
For our purposes, establishing that the Founding Fathers did not consider the United States of America a Christian nation, the only thing that matters is the English version, as that is the wording which was unanimously approved by both the House and the Senate, and that is the wording which was signed by President Adams. Having been penned by an English speaking secretary of President Washington, under President Washington's orders, the original is obviously the English document. What happened to the Arabic version is of no concern to me.
Had you bothered to get past the top of the front page before launching your salvo, you would have read all this in our web site. The whole point of the web site is to provide information such as this to athests who might find it useful.
Where is the English signed Treaty of Tripoli residing today?
Why don't you do your own history research?
This is an atheist forum. It is for atheists and we talk about issues of interest to atheist. A handful of atheists may be entertained by watching you do your Convoluted Christian thing, but that's not what we're about here.
Cliff Walker
Positive Atheism Magazine
Six years of service to
people with no reason to believe
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